My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Im pretty surprised the P3AT isnt on this list. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Do you perhaps have a very early one? In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. Springfield operator: 5.2 Three weeks before it was even released. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. Yep and they give AKs a bad name with how terrible theirs are. Keltec P11 will take S&W 669 mags10,15,20 rounders..just like the Marlin Camp Rifle.. Slicked up and did a Golden Loki Fluff & Buff on my Kel-Tec P3AT after I bought it years ago. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. How is this journalisim? I really wanted to like the gun. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. Happy ending. The gun design has never worked well . Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. I dont see it. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. The Picos have a huge fan base. These are not military combat weapons. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. 6. But, in real life event, the trigger want matter. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. Its manageable. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. Or did all those voters fly to Russia to test them out? But, it doesnt like to be dirty. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. Arguably one of the best and most popular pocket pistols, the pf9, was not on the spreadsheet. Women need to be told about the woman in Birmingham who was being robbed and pulled out a gun. based on what your stupid opinion? Id never heard of the site; wanted to check it out to see how much I want to buy the article at face value. The Pico is top shelf. IMHO it packs a great punch for a pistol that slips away in my pocket. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. Uh no. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. Are you kidding me? To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. Tiny little semi-automatics sure, there are many good ones and many bad ones. Empties wouldnt just fail to clear the slide; theyd never leave the chamber. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. All I know is my 1st CPX-2 had to be sent in for service 30 minutes after I got it home. and wrote the entire line off. I just dont see the silent u in that. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Best 380 Ive ever had. My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. Oh, it fits my hand great too. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? To each his own . I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. Accurate for cheap junk. Im not going to bash talk the CPX-2 , but its going to take me a while to get use to it. How do they perform? Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. I love the Pico. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. So there. Do not yank the magazine friends. SRP: $269. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Reliability is certainly suspect with a few of the .380's. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. She shot both, along with a used Beretta .380, and chose the Sig despite the price being just about double at the time. I can do it blind folded. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. Bought it brand new. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. My shooting buddy has an LCP. By the way, break down the Kahr and compare it to the Pico. Just keep shooting your pistol. Snicker. Worked fine til the last shot on the second reload. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. Oh not to mention Sccy has great I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. All you did is look at numerical reviews on the internet. Do they now have 12 round mags? I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. Have you ever even shot one? Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. And than some. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. You get two shots, a single-action-only I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. Anyone have the Bersa .380. AMEN . Funny mine have always worked. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? CM40 is my summe4 carry. And for sure never shot one. Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). His post show that he is just posting without knowledge of the firearms. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. George have you tried a different ammo brand? I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Every trigger Ive ever pulled is better than the LCP. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Totally agree. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? BUT! Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. Or had a bad exp. More power to him I say. Extremely Mild, Plus P rated, Modular design, mags that look like Custom 1911 stainless steel. I own a SCCY CPX-2 personally and it has been a flawless gun. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly Hellcat 380. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. Too many women wind up dropping the gun which the thug grabs and then uses on the woman. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. I. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). There is an author named John Lott, who became a best seller from an unknown very quickly by doing exactly that. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. either love or hate. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. No problem with the SCCY at all. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. Have owned and shot most of them. OMG! I know one person who had a nightmare of an experience with the Diamondback ..380. What a joke. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. Totally precision stainless steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, best sights in class, best take down in class, One of the most Mild mannered shooting guns made for that size. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. Certainly it should appear on the Wikipedia page. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. I shoot pocket guns all the time. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. AND, NAA has first class warranty service. Check out the 380 showdown in GunWorldin 2012all 3 Keltecs broke and wouldnt run right. He talks about having to yank the Mag. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. I fell for the Pico hype. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. Super gun, works every time. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon check the ammo?? It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. This is NOT a target gun. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. Also people need to fire them at the range. Glock 42 4. Mild. I tried to get Gunsgunsguns.net to pop up-no dice in 5 or 6 tries. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! From what I have heard the folks at SCCY provide great customer service. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). If you use ratings to determine which gun works or doesnt work for you, you are a fool. I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. Even a novice can see the better build quality of the Pico. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. Must be the best gun ever. The double 1911 also has ratings. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. We saw your review and write up. Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. One now has over 4,000 rounds of flawless ammo down range the other now over 1500 and have never broken a firing pin. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. Go to the Beretta form Pico and the gun is loved by many. OMG! Any kind of ammo. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. He says it is a blunder. Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. However it is not any where near the build quality of the Beretta Pico. Maybe something like this? It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. Not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria because neither gun goes! 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